Tze blogged a very thought-provoking and accurate entry wtf here inspired by something that happened to me today.
I don’t usually blog about people I know or friends/acquaintances who do weird or annoying things because what goes around comes around.
But I must talk about this!
I have a friend, X.
(To be specific, X is someone from my high school and I’ve known who he is for years. X and I didn’t hang out at all in school because he was an athlete and gangster WTF (ohhh join gang ohhh damn cool ohhhh wtf) and I was a bespectacled dwarf in the Science stream. After high school I somehow bumped into X and he asked me out but I didn’t like him because he got too emo and clingy and a bit boring wtf.)
So you can conclude that I have zero interest in X.
X found out that I am back and he kept calling me and messaging me to go out.
And I kept turning him down because really I was busy or he called too last minute or something. And I also canceled out on him once (because I thought my hair didn’t look good that day WTF)
Anyway today I finally agreed to go out with him for dinner.
He took me to a Western restaurant (not my first choice actually not even my last choice ever since I went to the US I hate all American food)
The bill came.
He took it and paid.
He said, “you still owe me a drink.” (cos when I canceled on him I said I’d buy him a drink as an apology)
I said, “I know!”
He said, “and a dinner.”
I thought he was joking and I said, “I didn’t say I’ll buy you dinner!”
He said, “Neither did I.”
WTF.
HE SCARED HE HAS TO PAY FOR MY FOOD IS IT!
I always offer to pay for my portion but this time he just took the bill and paid! I was going to wait until after the waiter left (cos some guys want face make themselves look like they pay for the girl’s meal wtf) but he fast fast say like that even before I could offer to pay!
Seriously damn annoying!
This is not an equal world (yet) where men and women have equal rights! Women continue to face glass ceilings in the workplace and are discriminated by gender what, so why should we not expect door-holding and other basic courtesies from men?
I really don’t expect guys to pay for me especially if they’re close friends and we hang out all the time. If a guy pays for me I will offer to pay for them the next time (up to them whether they want to take me up on it or not la)
But guys who go out with me for the first time usually pay or offer to pay and don’t grab my money when I give it to them wtf. This is the first time I’ve gone out with this guy in two or three years and he was the one who asked me out! And brought me to a place where he knows I hate the cuisine and ASKED ME TO PAY HIM BACK IN A BLATANT WAY.
After that dare to ask me if I want to watch movie some more! As if I want to sure I have to pay for my own movie also.
(Also he talked too soft and I wanted to ask him to speak up wtf. And he didn’t seem to get a lot of my jokes I feel so unvalidated.)
Am I wrong in being annoyed about this! I try not to assume that the guy will pay for me (but I am used to it, Malaysian guys are quite chivalrous – the ang mohs I have encountered: not so wtf) but why this guy can ask to pay him back wan!
I talked to my girl friends and most of them say the guy will pay, especially if it’s on the first date. Even if it’s not a date, just like hanging out one on one, the guy will usually pay or offer to!
So faster I want comments please am I wrong for being annoyed about this!
Comments (64)
my love u r not wrong for being angry ok because seriously it’s not so much about who’s paying or what it’s more like the way he asked for his money back like damn scared u run away wtf. and guys should generally pay la especially first time!
for once i am the first to leave a comment! =))))
i know its not so nice to ask,but was it the guy i met earlier today?it was so nice to bump into you LOL.
ya allah tim kai im not the first but oh well nevermind just realized. =((
im a guy and i will nv do that
tze: YALAH WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH AND DECIDED WE HATE GUYS LIKE THESE wtf.
missycheerio: HAHA no it’s not that guy! must clarify so he won’t get framed wtf. it was another guy la seriously damn annoying ok.
wtf of cos not wrong for being annoyed. it’s common courtesy la, you ask ppl out for the first time of cos you pay for it. some more it’s obvious that he’s interested in you since he kept msg-ing and all. behave like this still expect a second date ah damn sohai
erm…maybe he is just a poor chap currently broke? i donno, guy sees this somewhat differently, maybe only me.
Like what i always told my friends : dont date a girl if u dont have the money. girls always comes with a price tag…
WTF faster msg me n tell me who is X wtf !! And of course you are not wrong la ! If he tells u in advance that you guys will split or sth then okay la ! But then he paid first okay ! and still ask u back for the money wtf wtf ! Itz like he wants face infront of the public but he also wants his money WTF
For me, i think the guys shud pay coz he is the one who ask u out. He is not gentleman at all. Dont hang out with him next time. Definitely agree with Angie about the face part!!! HAHA…Anyways, i am ur BIG fan. Nice to meet you!
bwahahah do i know that guy? *giggles* i think it’s the way that he asks for it which annoys you. abit not gentleman la… nevermind..don’t go out with him anymore!
wtf..who in the world..that guy is seriously damn cheap >=(
haha… yeah, what a loser and chauvinistic huh?
dont worry, just buy him his drink and never pick up his calls.. i think there are still some decent guys in msia.. so good luck in your search!! =)
personally, i agree with your commenters. the person intiating the 1-1 outing should pay… unless you are really really good friends.
no wonder you were so pissed off when you came back from the dinner “with the most boring guy on earth” hahahhaa shucks too bad i had to run off for those stupid finals..
ANYWAY! WTF HOW CAN GOT PEOPLE LIKE THAT ONE HE JUST CRAWLED OUT FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND ISSIT WTF.
Gosh never go out with him again haha not only does he have no sense of chivalry, it appears that he is also socially inept. =P
Haha oh ya talked too soft how to be gangster like that ah *whispers* “i will beat you up” wtf where got intimidating. and dw! don’t get your jokes means he is not up to your level of intellect hahahahahaha.
eh no lah you are not wrong to be annoyed. it’s not about who pays what, and in any case you said you expected to go halves alredi.
it’s just the way he handled it ok: as in blatantly asking you to pay him back like some loan shark seeking repayments liddat wtf. why doesn’t he just bring some red paint and paint all over the dining table: i damn scared this girl don’t wanna pay me back wtf.
the polite thing to do would be as you said: wait for you to offer to go halves, or you could offer to pay for a movie/ meal/ whatever next time round (but this guy sure confirmed takda next time round wtf)
why these people liddat -_____- is it the gangster in him ar wtf. but then doesn’t make sense also where go gangster talk so soft wan wtf.
but from personal experience, i am damn sibeh prickly about this money thing lah, as in i die die also wanna pay half, date or no date. like the time my ex and i went for a movie and we debated so long about him paying for the both of us, the guy behind us said: ‘oh you can pay for me too’ wtf.
i imagine my self as u, i’ll get damn annoyed too la… can’t stand guys liddat. he probably was just trying to ask u out again but the way he used is so so wrong la.. yea buy him the drink u promised and forget abt him la..
i’m not sure how the entire conversation went and if there were any hints that indicated that he was dead serious about demanding for the money back but maybe it was just his way of getting you to go for dinner with him again?
maybe it’s just him trying to be cheeky and to create more opportunities for him to be able to hang out with you…and probably since he’s abit kayu, his stunt kinda turned out looking bad…
anyways..that’s just a possibility
i dont think its wrong that u felt annoyed, it is annoying to have a person bugging to go out with you and end up asking for the bill to be split in this manner..i guess its how he approached the situation, damn not cool..
would never stand a second date la of course..
haha so funny. i’d met guys like that before. so kiamsiap why even bother asking a girl out right haih.. of course u have the right to be annoyed i mean, wtf right.. asking a girl to pay back on a first date.. where have the bola(s) disappeared to? but then again prolly he’s really bola-less omg damn kesian him if that’s the case u have to forgive him rofl.
what am i crapping.. = =”
before my bf became my bf(lol), he took me to an exp restaurant then we switched to somewhere cheaper. later on when we got together, he told me he was checking his wallet behind the menu and found out he didnt have enough.
but yealah. if you’re interested with a girl better pay for the first date lah right. if dont want to pay at least say “hur hur, kinda tight we go dutch k?” but noooo, until the bill came then macam played a big joke on you. yes, u have the right to be annoyed.
if a guy is a gentleman, he will pay. I got a good guy friend and he pays for me all the time even tho we are just friends. N all d guys I went out w, they all pay for me. One word, that guy is a jerk
pitty the guy la…maybe he’s broke leh….
Maybe he is a damn kiamsiap person or just generally a believer of the girl paying? Or maybe he is interested in you still and this is his dumb “tactic” to get you to go out with him? I recently met a guy too, keeps asking me out, then whenever i casually insult him in a joking way, he will say I OWE him dinner. Which is stupid, I hardly know him how do I god damn owe him.. so X maybe really likes you, or is a gay prick.. lol
I agree that its a matter of courtesy, and personally will not expect a girl to pay for meals unless it was understood that we are sharing the bill.
Anyway, back to the guy’s behavior.. well, its just that some people have their own way of handling their finance 🙂
Cheer up! Being angry kills a lot of your beautiful cells.
HAHAHA, I guess he’s kinda tight in his pocket. I guess he kinda screwed up in asking a favor for the return. I guess he’s even off you do-not-date list :P. Generally, if I’m alone with a female I would pay the bill regardless she’s old or young, pretty or decent, tall or petite, rich or poor, etc. Come on show the ladies some loves! Come come, don’t get annoyed by him, I can treat you a meal anytime…
if i were in your shoes, I would be tempted to just kenakan him balik by saying, “oh you didn’t say you would buy me dinner? sorry ar, I thought you did so I didn’t bring my wallet out.” saja dowan to pay him back then never see him again!!!!!
that guy deserve a tight slap LOL!!
u should have said like ” gd! cause i never plan to treat u dinner also. neither did i ever said that u have to pay for my dinner.”
xD
hiayoooo…dont be so bitter la girls…it’s 2008 not 1908. Face it that some guys are just retards. Get over it and move on…what happened to independant women and all that girl power sh*t. boohooo…
WTF! Guys like these don’t deserve to even be near women. They give guys a bad bad name..
This guy is so damn annoying lah wtf! Usually I don’t expect guys to pay for me too but what for he wanna say something like that wtf! So ungentleman la pls. Sigh. I was like ‘DUH’ =.=
YOU know HARD EARNED MONEY…LOOK IT UP BABY…pftttt…
i agree with poof. you girls are f*cking stupid and ignorant. go f*ck yourself in the ass…if guys are so bad why the f*ck are you all so damn mother f*cking horny and still wanna go out with guys. just go f*ck a dog la…since girls are b#tches anywayz..wtf wtf wtf…seriously…that s*it is the lamest thing i’ve heard in my whole life.
what an idiot -.- If it’s me I think I’ll get pissed off too and probably ditch him right after dinner. Don’t care if I had to take a taxi home wtf.
i thk that guy is such a loser. u are right to b annoyed. i would b thousand times more annoyed okayy. but if the way he said u owed him a dinner was in a joking manner or if his real intention was to get an excuse to ask u out again then he shud b forgiven i thk ^^.
i would be annoyed also! this kind of guy cannot get married lah wtf lah
hey i really like ur hair. can i kno wat products u use pls pls pls? =D
well if all girls are stupid and ignorant why the hell do you bastards want to go out with girls anyways KEEP YOUR FUCKING CHEAP MONEY AND BUY SOME FUCKING BRAINS LA sorry la ah sou i cannot stand it when there are obviously brainless ppl who disrespects girls like that.
and my take is honestly la since he’s been bugging to take u out by right he should pay la. courtesy wat. i know some guys work their ass off for the money but its not like we ask them to pay everytime also. a simple gesture like pay on the first date or time to time can do wonders la. if they can’t even do something simple like that then next time how? omg wtf.
eh why are some of your commenters so brainless one seriously. first of all she already said the guy kept calling her and msging her to go out so she isnt ‘damn motherfucking horny and still wanna go out with guys’
are u trying to say that girls shouldnt go out with guys in general then even as friends? or are you just bitter that you got dumped by some girl who insisted that u paid for everything?
please lah ok. make educated comments. if u dont feel like you want to pay for girls then dont la! like evelyn said, keep your fucking cheap money and buy some fucking brains.
if a guy can demand for money after a meal i’d rather for the entire bill la seriously aud. make him feel fucking malu and no face that a girl had to pay for his dinner. tiu not like i cannot afford to pay for both also. eh but maybe he’ll be damn thick skinned and be happy he got a free meal wtf.
i dunno la honestly i’m like evelyn also la. if its a friend or just an acquaintance i’d offer to pay back one la i dont like guys paying for my share of things ok.
the only exceptions i make are if its a date, or if he’s been asking me out, or if the guy really insists (and even then la i usually pay for a drink later or something) and finally if he’s my boyfriend.
eh eh i got one more thing to add for poof. poofter wtf.
yes we’ve heard of hard earned money ok what makes you think that we dont work hard to earn our own money???
your stupid money so precious then dont ask a girl out lah. duh.
poof and bn: since you guys agree on this topic, maybe you should just go and fuck each other. woohoo.
morons.
be annoyed, but be gracious too. pay your portion back to him, and say goodbye. he off your list now. hows that?
if he dared to picked the tab first, then he should be gracious about it. likewise, if the lady decides to pay for it. it should all be out of goodwill, and not so calculative.
Hello everyone thanks for your comments! I’m just going to answer a few okay.
to the people who said he was broke: whether he was broke or not, he didn’t need to ask for the money back because I WOULD HAVE PAID HIM BACK ANYWAY. but because he did so, and in such a crass way, he made himself look like a cheapskate.
lemole: i did wonder if he was joking. but i didn’t want to take the risk so i gave him money and he took it. so he wasn’t joking.
CK: there should be more guys like you haha
poof: i don’t think i’m being bitter. as i said, i didn’t expect him to pay for me in the first place. what i am annoyed about is the fact that he asked in such a class-less way.
bn: im sorry you feel that way about girls. you must have had a hard life getting rejected by them. as i said in my blog entry (which you probably didn’t read because you were too blinded by senseless rage)i wasn’t that keen on going out with him, and only went out with him to give him face. if you really hate girls so much, please stay away from us because i don’t think any girl wants you near them.
weilee: i don’t really use any special products! i use whatever shampoo is there and sala hair masque (from japan) and hair serum but i forgot what brand. and gatsby hair wax and spray:)
chipmunk: haha that’s what i did! when he said he doesn’t owe me a dinner i told him i’m paying him back and i did. and then i declined to watch a movie haha. i don’t mind if a guy pays first and then i pay him back because most waiters put the check in front of the guy (and the guy is indirectly forced to pay it) that’s why i don’t want to assume the guy wants to pay. but no need to be so calculative right?
This is what I love about you, audrey ooi! 🙂 Although I know many girls who would expect or even demand a guy to pay on the first date, you wouldn’t go as far as that– you would still offer to pay. I am like that too! 😛
Its the way he demanded for the money that ticks me off. I think he was rude and should have had more courtesy. I dont like a guy paying my way either because there are bound to be guys who will look at it as you “being in their debt” and then expect you to be eternally grateful for one meal that you could pay for anyway.
Ignore the idiot for all eternity.
I am just a passerby. Well, it is ok to go on dutch but it is unnecessary for him to ask u in such manners. it is like a total insult to u and to other gals. It is not that u cant afford to pay for the pathetic sum of money but isnt it a way that guys pay first and the gal will pay him back? Come on. I don’t see a point that he needs to ask the money from u in this way.
btw, BN! If u think all gals or most gals are biatches then i felt very sorry for mommy! Ooppssss! Go get a life. Everyone has got their own view on stuffs and wat they like to blog. if u r SO unhappy with it then don stumble onto her blog and bark like a mad dog! Also, not that she doesnt wants to pay up but just that she is giving the guy a chance to pay first and she will pay him after that. Before barking around, please look at the biatch u have at home!
I m quite enjoying 2 read tis blog, but “proof” n “bn” plz dun spoil tis blog by putting the nasty words ok? If u r finding not happy 2 read it, u can just go 2 ur right top side n just click the “x”. Dun make urself shameful.
Frankly, as a guy opinion, if u r dating a girl, tat mean u r asking the girl 2 scarify her personal free time 2 accompany u 4 a meal or drink, so I think guys shud pay 4 it. However, if the girls who r the 1 asking the guy 2 go some classy restaurant first n expect us 2 pay 4 it, is not fair la. If guys really broke but u stil wan 2 date ppl, u can try 2 do some homework first, go n find some nice place n nice food but is not costly. First date= first impression, is so important. So if u r not preparing it, then dun think that ur lovely cute face wil giv good impression. Wtf…
Audrey shud thank 2 tis mr.x too coz he is so honest 2 u… wtf.. bcoz some guys love 2 pretend 2 b rich n generous but actually he is not. Giv x an honour..”tapek”.. wtf :p
Audrey i like ur personality!!!wtf…haha
GANGSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Drink may be laced…..GANGSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg. cannot believe there’s people like that. so thick-skinned >.
everyone loves audrey /boo i love audrey too 😀
why r u so silent on msn wtf.